Hardware for turboswap

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Hardware for turboswap

Post by Blitzkid » Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:12 pm

Hey guys, I'm just trying to figure out what all I absolutely need to swap turbos on the VR-4. I searched on stealth316 and it came up with this.

Turbo-Manifold Gasket (2) MD168266 3.77
Turbo-O2Housing Gasket (2) MR188537 3.54
Coolant Line Copper Washer Gasket (20) MF660064 0.85
Oil Feed Line Copper Washers (10) MF660063 0.85
Oil Return Line Gasket (4) MR258477 0.92
Oil Return Line Bolt: Turbo (4) MF241225 0.40
Oil Return Line Bolt: Oil Pan (4) MD193110 0.62
Rear IC Pipe O-Ring (1) MD090788 3.28
Turbo-Manifold Seal Ring (2) MD077551 4.44 NR
Exhaust Gasket: Front (1) MB687002 5.74 NR
Exhaust Gasket: Rear (1) MR323619 3.08 NR
Plenum-Manifold Gasket (1) MD143791 6.60 NR

Oil Feed Line EyeBolt: Front (1) MF650102 6.26 NR
Oil Return Line: Front (1) MD160039 24.24 NR
Oil Return Line: Rear (1) MR266015 36.09 NR
Bolts: Plenum-Manifold - Short (3) MF241862 0.72 NR
Bolts: Plenum-Manifold - Long (2) MF241870 0.68 NR
Oil Filter MZ690116 ~5.00 NR
Fuel Filter MB658136


However, I heard that all of this is not necessary, so if any of you guys who have done multiple multiple turbo swaps have a list that you use, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks, ~Jeff
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Post by Monochrome » Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:05 am

You don't need to replace the plenum bolts, but be ready to replace a few turbo exhaust studs.
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Re: Hardware for turboswap

Post by mjannusch » Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:00 pm

Blitzkid wrote:Turbo-Manifold Seal Ring (2) MD077551 4.44 NR
Don't bother with those. You can either re-use the original ones, or just pitch them in the trash. Whichever you prefer. If you don't port the exhaust manifolds and turbo inlets, then its probably best to keep them.
Exhaust Gasket: Front (1) MB687002 5.74 NR
Exhaust Gasket: Rear (1) MR323619 3.08 NR
If these are the ones I think they are, get two of the "front" ones as you need one for the front O2 housing to downpipe, and one for the rear O2 housing to downpipe connections. The "rear" one is for the downpipe to the catalytic converter... If I remember right.
Bolts: Plenum-Manifold - Short (3) MF241862 0.72 NR
Bolts: Plenum-Manifold - Long (2) MF241870 0.68 NR
Don't bother with those unless your existing plenum bolts are sketchy.
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Post by Blitzkid » Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:36 pm

ok, thanks guys I this is what I ended up ordering from Nick .

Turbo-Manifold Gasket (2) MD168266 3.77
Turbo-O2Housing Gasket (2) MR188537 3.54

Coolant Line Copper Washer Gasket (8) MF660064 0.85
Oil Feed Line Copper Washers (4) MF660063 0.85
Oil Return Line Gasket (4) MR258477 0.92
Exhaust Gasket: Front (1) MB687002 5.74 NR
Exhaust Gasket: Rear (1) MR323619 3.08 NR
Plenum-Manifold Gasket (1) MD143791 6.60 NR
Oil Filter MZ690116 ~5.00 NR

plus a set of the stock NGK platinums, a rear IC pipe o-ring and the oil feed lines....I think I might go back for the studs....thanks again.
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Post by mjannusch » Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:10 pm

Blitzkid wrote:Exhaust Gasket: Front (1) MB687002 5.74 NR
In case you missed it, you want 2 of those - one for each O2 housing to downpipe connection.

I'd probably get at least a couple turbo studs to have on hand when at least one inevitably breaks off like Monochrome said. They should be cheap.
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Post by Blitzkid » Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:36 pm

mjannusch wrote:
Blitzkid wrote:Exhaust Gasket: Front (1) MB687002 5.74 NR
In case you missed it, you want 2 of those - one for each O2 housing to downpipe connection.

I'd probably get at least a couple turbo studs to have on hand when at least one inevitably breaks off like Monochrome said. They should be cheap.
ok, so the I'll need two "fronts" for the o2's to the dp...and one "rear" for downpipe to main cat? Hopefully the triple m racing downpipe will get here in time so I won't need those, but better safe then sorry.

So the turbo studs will break? Whats the easiest way to get them out if they do?
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Post by mjannusch » Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:50 pm

Your best bet for the studs is to spray the hell out of them with PB Blaster and soak 'em as much as possible in it before attempting to remove the nuts. Once you have each turbo out, spray the studs directly from both ends and let them soak while you work on something else and hopefully you can use two nuts counter-rotated against each other to loosen the studs.

Honestly, you may* want to use all new studs on your new turbos and put anti-sieze on them.

I believe I am correct on the downpipe gaskets - 2 "fronts" and 1 "rear" should do it.
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Post by Blitzkid » Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:22 pm

okay, thanks matt.
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Re: Hardware for turboswap

Post by Oskar » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:52 am

Good thread. Bringing it back to life as I have a few questions. Any reason to replace the oil or water lines when doing a turbo swap. In my case, healthy engine with no known bearing issues.

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Re: Hardware for turboswap

Post by sting1180 » Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:54 am

The only reasons to swap the lines would be because you had a bearing or turbo failure, or you are doing different turbos that require different lines.
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Re: Hardware for turboswap

Post by mjannusch » Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:29 pm

If you know that the oil has been changed religiously and the car has been allowed to cool down running so oil doesn't get cooked in the oil feed lines, then you can skip those. As long as coolant lines are in good shape you can re-use those as well.
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Re: Hardware for turboswap

Post by Oskar » Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:34 pm

As far as turbo studs, bolts and nuts. OEM is a bit spendy, even at the discount vendors. 3SX has a full set, non OEM, for $63 shipped. Anyone have any feedback on this? http://tinyurl.com/74xrorh" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Hardware for turboswap

Post by mjannusch » Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:16 pm

When I put the 15Gs on the Spyder way back when, I just used the highest grade studs/nuts I could find at the local hardware store and didn't have a problem with them. The 3SX kit should be fine.
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Re: Hardware for turboswap

Post by Oskar » Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:57 am

I went ahead and ordered it from 3SX. I like the easy way when possible, so ordering a kit supercedes going to the local HW store and piecing it together. :lol:

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